Hello,
I have a flight from Seattle to Rome with a transfer at CDG Terminal 2E (gates E51-76 I think) going to Terminal 2F. Arrival is supposed to be 8:50 am and the next flight departs at 9:45 with latest check in time limit 9:15. (Flights AF049 and AF1504)
1. Since I will be checking in online or at the least in Seattle won%26#39;t I already be checked in for this flight?
2. Do I have enough time for this transfer? (Air France scheduled it :-) and it%26#39;s an Air France 2nd flight verses Alitalia which was my other choice that I didn%26#39;t go with.)
3. I read to take the shuttle bus N1 to get from 2E to 2F is that going to actually be faster than walking? or is walking even an option?
4. Will only have carry on luggage so won%26#39;t have to get baggage.
Thanks for all of your help!
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I doubt you%26#39;ll make it. According to http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightRating/flightRatingByFlight.do?airline=%28AF%29+Air+France%26amp;flightNumber=49%26amp;x=20%26amp;y=11, the flight is not too bad, but could be late 1 time over 4. Even if you are there on time, it does take time to get off the plane, get to the immigration area, pass control, get out of 2E... If you travel on economy, which row have you been able to book? Make sure you%26#39;re not at the backend of the plane otherwise you%26#39;ll take another 10 minutes.
In terminal 2E there is now a shuttle that brings you to immigration a lot faster.
Between 2E and 2F, best is to walk. You also have speedwalk on the arrival level area. When in 2F take the escalator to departure area. There you will also have to go through hand luggage control.
To summarize I would say:
- plane seat to immigration: 10 mins
- immigration process: 10 mins
- immigration to 2F control: 10 mins
- 2F controls: 10 mins
- 2F control to plane: 5 to 10 minutes
If you%26#39;re lucky, you could probably avoid too much queue but you won%26#39;t be able to make it in less than 30 minutes anyway.
I have experienced the same situation once, coming back from Atlanta (arr. around 6am) and going to Berlin. I had one hour between flights, I am French but did not make it. Air France booked me on an evening flight. One attendant said to me %26quot;if you want to leave earlier, get your suitcase first and once you%26#39;ll have it, you%26#39;ll be able to get on next available flight%26quot;. I did that and instead of leaving at 6pm, I left at 10.30am. If you know you might have to collect your luggage when on transit, make sure your luggage is not black as everyone else%26#39;s. If you have an old tie or old scarf, put it on the hanger of your suitcase in order that it can be found easily.
Good luck
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the link is http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightRating/flightRatingByFlight.do?airline=%28AF%29+Air+France%26amp;flightNumber=49%26amp;x=20%26amp;y=11
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Turfy, I have a similiar situation. Arriving at 2E with 65 minutes to get to 2F. You will be checked in all the way from Seattle. So, the 9:15 does not apply to you, according to Air France when I asked a similiar question. Not sure about walking being quicker. I have heard that the shuttle is from some, because you do not have to go through immigration, just security. I have not decided which way to go yet. Remember though, the majority of the people do make these flights, or they wouldn%26#39;t continue to offer them.
Thank positive!
Barb
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Immigration is done at 1st airport you arrive within Schengen space (most of countries part of EU, except UK). You have no choice of whether you can do it at 2nd airport or not. Same for us when we go to US: immigration process is completed at airport of entrance
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Thanks for all of your replies! I don%26#39;t remember going through immigration when we had a layover in Amsterdam on our way to Italy last time. Also, why would we go through security again or do we? if we don%26#39;t leave the secured area shouldn%26#39;t we be o.k.?
Thanks for your help!
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I don%26#39;t think you stay all the time in restricted area, that%26#39;s why.
Immigration here does not take much time.
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Thank you!
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Your transfer time concerns me, but people have made their flights in less time. Airlines do not acknowledge connection problems when they book short layovers and often change itineraries for passengers who have sought to protect themselves from these pitfalls. Basically, a shorter flight time does not mean that the planes fly faster...it%26#39;s the layover that changes. On your side: Planes flying west to east often land early because %26quot;the winds are with them.%26quot;
When changing terminals at CDG, it has been my experience that you leave secured areas and have to go through immigration (if flying to another country) and security again. How fast you can do this is dependant upon circumstance...when you are there, how long the lines are, and how many agents are checking passports and manning security checkpoints. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn%26#39;t.
Be aware of the pitfalls and contact security for assistance if you don%26#39;t think you%26#39;re going to make your flight. If they think 1) you need their assistance and 2) you can make your flight with their help, they can get you through the lines...they just have to agree with you!
Bon Voyage, and we%26#39;re all pulling for you! Make the best of it, and post your experience when you get home.
A suggestion if you do miss your flight: If you can get a layover that is 7-8 hours, visit Paris! The RER (%26quot;Paris Par Train%26quot;)is very efficient, and lunch around Notre Dame isn%26#39;t bad! You%26#39;ll probably have to make a metro connection, but do your research before you leave home. Your bags will be checked, note the length of your travel to a Paris destination, and give yourself an extra time to enter the secured area again. We did this flying through Brussels, and it worked very well. Any feedback on doing this through CDG, (besides allowing extra time to get to your gate...it%26#39;s CDG, after all!)?
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Thanks so much, yes, it wouldn%26#39;t break my heart to %26quot;have%26quot; to visit Paris... :-).... I actually still have a few metro tickets left over from last visit. Not RER, but regular .
I will remember to ask security if it looks like we might not make it.
Thanks for taking the time to help.
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Have a wonderful trip and adapt it%26#39;s what you have to do!
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